arXiv AI By Simin Fan, Alireza Abdollahpoorrostam, Martin Jaggi

OptiSelect: How does the Optimizer Shape Data Curriculum?

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OptiSelect is a framework that incorporates the optimizer’s effect into online data selection for large language model pretraining. The study shows that optimizers like Lion and Muon, which use sign-based or polar-tangential preconditioners, suffer from a discriminability collapse that limits selection gains, whereas diagonal‑adaptive optimizers such as AdamW and Sophia can achieve higher gains. Experiments on 124M and 720M models confirm the theory and demonstrate that OptiSelect remains effective even when data is rephrased.

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