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Pretraining Data Scale Reverses the Muon-AdamW Fine-Tuning Gap

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The paper investigates how the optimizer Muon compares to AdamW during fine‑tuning of large language models. While Muon speeds up pretraining loss minimization, the study finds that when pretraining data is sufficiently large, AdamW actually outperforms Muon after fine‑tuning. The authors explain this reversal by introducing the margin‑to‑spread ratio, showing that Muon has a higher ratio at small data budgets but AdamW surpasses it as data grows, a trend confirmed both analytically and in simulations.

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