arXiv:2607. 24953v1 Announce Type: cross Abstract: Reducing training precision is a key lever for improving the e ciency of large language model (LLM) training, but pushing beyond FP8 to 4-bit oating point (FP4) remains challenging due to instability during optimization.
By Mehdi Rahimifar, Amin Darabi, Mehran Taghian Jazi, Xing Huang, Yao Wang, Zhijun Tu, Yufei Cui, Yunke Peng, Hongliang Li
arXiv:2606. 20381v1 Announce Type: new Abstract: FP4 training promises substantial reductions in memory and computation cost for LLM pretraining, yet current FP4 hardware paths and recipes, including NVIDIA Blackwell/Rubin-class systems and AMD MI350-series GPUs, remain centered on E2M1 data elements.
By Qian Zhao, Kunlong Chen, Changxin Tian, Zhonghui Jiang, Haitao Zhang, Chaofan Yu, Peijie Jiang, Mingliang Gong, Jia Liu, Ziqi Liu, Zhiqiang Zhang, Jun Zhou
arXiv:2607. 15810v1 Announce Type: new Abstract: Rollout generation is a major bottleneck in Reinforcement Learning (RL) for Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) Large Language Models, motivating low-precision rollout acceleration such as FP8.
By Zhengyang Zhuge, Hao Yu, Xin Wang, Zheng Li, Yizhong Cao, Dayiheng Liu, Jianwei Zhang
Stable 4-bit floating-point (FP4) pretraining is difficult because the E2M1 payload represents only a narrow range of magnitudes. NVIDIA's Transformer Engine \nv{} recipe addresses this with current-tensor scaling, a randomized Hadamard transform (RHT), and bfloat16 (BF16) final layers, adding work outside the FP4 matrix multiplications.
The paper introduces a new 4‑bit floating‑point (FP4) pretraining approach that pairs E2M1 payloads with unsigned E5M3 block scales, enabling periodic tensor scaling and selective stochastic rounding while eliminating the randomized Hadamard transform. Using this method, the authors pretrained a Nemotron‑H 8B model on nearly 190 billion tokens, achieving lower training and validation losses compared to NVIDIA’s Transformer Engine. The approach also improves inference performance and demonstrates a 21.2 % increase in token throughput when certain optimizations are removed.
By Robert Hu, Carlo Luschi, Paul Balanca
arXiv:2607. 26515v1 Announce Type: new Abstract: We present, to our knowledge, the first end-to-end FP4 RL post-training, in which both the rollout and training policies, including their forward and backward passes, operate at 4-bit precision.
By Hei Yi Mak, Shadan Golestan, Hoang Le, Mehran Taghian Jazi, Yunke Peng, Yaoyuan Wang, Yao Wang, Junsong Wang, Tianchi Hu, Fengchen He, Guipeng Hu, Tanzila Rahman, Anandharaju Durai Raju