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Rethinking Shrinkage Bias in LLM FP4 Pretraining: Geometric Origin, Systemic Impact, and UFP4 Recipe

arXiv:2606. 20381v1 Announce Type: new Abstract: FP4 training promises substantial reductions in memory and computation cost for LLM pretraining, yet current FP4 hardware paths and recipes, including NVIDIA Blackwell/Rubin-class systems and AMD MI350-series GPUs, remain centered on E2M1 data elements.

arXiv Machine Learning
Sep 3

UE5M3 FP4 Block Scaling for Stable Language Model Pretraining

The paper introduces a new 4‑bit floating‑point (FP4) pretraining approach that pairs E2M1 payloads with unsigned E5M3 block scales, enabling periodic tensor scaling and selective stochastic rounding while eliminating the randomized Hadamard transform. Using this method, the authors pretrained a Nemotron‑H 8B model on nearly 190 billion tokens, achieving lower training and validation losses compared to NVIDIA’s Transformer Engine. The approach also improves inference performance and demonstrates a 21.2 % increase in token throughput when certain optimizations are removed.

By Robert Hu, Carlo Luschi, Paul Balanca
arXiv Machine Learning
Jul 30

HiFloat4 Format for End-To-End Reinforcement Learning Post-Training of Large Language Models

arXiv:2607. 26515v1 Announce Type: new Abstract: We present, to our knowledge, the first end-to-end FP4 RL post-training, in which both the rollout and training policies, including their forward and backward passes, operate at 4-bit precision.

By Hei Yi Mak, Shadan Golestan, Hoang Le, Mehran Taghian Jazi, Yunke Peng, Yaoyuan Wang, Yao Wang, Junsong Wang, Tianchi Hu, Fengchen He, Guipeng Hu, Tanzila Rahman, Anandharaju Durai Raju
arXiv Machine Learning
1d ago

Format-Aware Fusion for Fast FP4 Pretraining

The paper introduces format‑aware fusion, a method that co‑designs quantization producers with their scale domains and consumer layouts to fully exploit four‑bit floating‑point (FP4) Tensor Cores. Using this approach, the authors pretrain the Llama‑3‑family 8B model on 160 billion tokens, achieving up to 37.9 K tokens/s/GPU—significantly higher than standard bfloat16 or Transformer Engine FP4 baselines. The study demonstrates that FP4 performance depends on the interplay of scaling, operand packing, layout, and execution path, with downstream task rankings diverging from training‑loss rankings.

By Robert Hu
arXiv AI
Jun 15

The Curse and Blessing of Mean Bias in FP4-Quantized LLM Training

arXiv:2603. 10444v2 Announce Type: replace-cross Abstract: FP4 training promises substantial memory and compute savings for large language models, but remains fragile because blockwise quantization is dictated by extreme activation magnitudes, which inflate dynamic range and compress long-tail signals.

By Hengjie Cao, Zhendong Huang, Mengyi Chen, Yifeng Yang, Fang Dong, Anrui Chen, Ruijun Huang, Xin Zhang, Mingzhi Dong, Yujiang Wang, Jinlong Hou, Qin Lv, Robert P. Dick, Yuan Cheng, Tun Lu, Fan Yang, Yixuan Chen, Li Shang
arXiv Machine Learning
Jul 20

QUADS: Stabilizing NVFP4 Reinforcement Learning for MoE via QUantization-error Alignment across Dual Sides

arXiv:2607. 15810v1 Announce Type: new Abstract: Rollout generation is a major bottleneck in Reinforcement Learning (RL) for Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) Large Language Models, motivating low-precision rollout acceleration such as FP8.

By Zhengyang Zhuge, Hao Yu, Xin Wang, Zheng Li, Yizhong Cao, Dayiheng Liu, Jianwei Zhang
arXiv AI
Jun 26

SharQ: Bridging Activation Sparsity and FP4 Quantization for LLM Inference

arXiv:2606. 26587v1 Announce Type: cross Abstract: Low-bit floating-point formats and semi-structured sparsity are increasingly supported by modern accelerators, yet combining them for LLM activation compression remains challenging: activations contain input-dependent outliers that dominate block scales in FP4 quantization, and directly applying N:M sparsity masks discards moderate values, coupling sparsification loss with quantization error.

By Haoqian Meng, Yilun Luo, Yafei Zhao, Wenyuan Liu, Huaqing Zheng, Xindian Ma, Peng Zhang
arXiv AI
Jul 29

Stable FP4 Training via Transposition-Invariant Block Quantization

arXiv:2607. 24953v1 Announce Type: cross Abstract: Reducing training precision is a key lever for improving the e ciency of large language model (LLM) training, but pushing beyond FP8 to 4-bit oating point (FP4) remains challenging due to instability during optimization.

By Mehdi Rahimifar, Amin Darabi, Mehran Taghian Jazi, Xing Huang, Yao Wang, Zhijun Tu, Yufei Cui, Yunke Peng, Hongliang Li