arXiv AI

Beyond Adam: SOAP and Muon for Faster, Label-Efficient Training of Machine Learning Interatomic Potentials

arXiv:2607. 02499v1 Announce Type: cross Abstract: Machine learning interatomic potentials (MLIPs) have become a hallmark of AI for scientific simulation.

arXiv AI
Jul 24

SOAP, Muon, and Beyond: Pushing LLM Pretraining Scales

arXiv:2607. 20548v1 Announce Type: cross Abstract: Higher-order optimizers such as Muon and SOAP offer faster convergence than AdamW, but their computational cost and numerical stability challenges have limited adoption at scale.

By Mikail Khona, Aditya Vavre, Boxiang Wang, Deyu Fu, Hao Wu, Mike Chrzanowski, Bryan Catanzaro, Dheevatsa Mudigere, Jeff Pool, Michael Lightstone, Mohammad Shoeybi, Mostofa Patwary, Nima Tajbakhsh, Tijmen Blankevoort
arXiv Machine Learning
Aug 31

Blog: Survey of Optimizers

The article surveys recent neural‑network optimizers, noting that the field has moved beyond simple Adam variants to encompass matrix‑ and layer‑level designs, time‑policy horizons, and state representations that survive sharding and low‑precision computation. It categorizes optimizers along four axes—temporal estimation, update geometry, horizon management, and representation & systems—highlighting methods such as Muon, Shampoo, SOAP, and quantized states. The survey concludes that while matrix‑aware methods are a genuine advance, no single optimizer universally replaces AdamW, and performance depends on model scale, data‑to‑parameter ratio, batch size, schedule, partitioning, tuning budget, and target metric.

By Ruoran Xu
arXiv Machine Learning
Sep 23

MONA: Muon Optimizer with Nesterov Acceleration for Scalable Language Model Training

MONA is a new optimizer that extends the Muon optimizer by adding a Nesterov‑style acceleration term derived from an exponential moving average of gradient differences. The paper provides a convergence analysis showing that this term offers curvature‑aware corrections while maintaining Muon’s spectral‑norm regularization. Empirical results demonstrate that MONA outperforms both Muon and AdamW on Mixture‑of‑Experts pretraining across models ranging from 1 B to 68 B parameters, and achieves state‑of‑the‑art performance on downstream benchmarks after fine‑tuning the largest model.

By Jiacheng Li, Jianchao Tan, Hongtao Xu, Jiaqi Zhang, Yifan Lu, Yerui Sun, Yuchen Xie, Xunliang Cai
arXiv Machine Learning
1d ago

AF-Muon: An AdamW-Free Muon Optimizer for Tied-Embedding Models

AF‑Muon is an AdamW‑free extension of the Muon optimizer that retains Muon’s matrix update for hidden weights while applying a support‑aware finite‑cap linear minimization oracle to tied vocabulary tables and an RMS‑normalized update for one‑dimensional auxiliary parameters. This design eliminates second‑moment state, reducing optimizer‑state memory by about 20% compared to Hybrid Muon. Across nine tied‑token settings—including decoder‑only language models, T5‑style encoder‑decoders, and ImageGPT‑style variants—AF‑Muon consistently improves mean validation loss and perplexity over both Hybrid Muon and a SCION‑style Sign endpoint, with robust gains confirmed by long‑horizon runs and hyperparameter studies.

By Arash Lagzian, Paniz Halvachi, Junming Zhang, Zhouhan Lin, Dianbo Liu
arXiv Machine Learning
Jun 9

Convergence Bound and Critical Batch Size of Muon Optimizer

arXiv:2507. 01598v5 Announce Type: replace Abstract: Muon, a recently proposed optimizer that leverages the inherent matrix structure of neural network parameters, has demonstrated strong empirical performance, indicating its potential as a successor to standard optimizers such as AdamW.

By Naoki Sato, Hiroki Naganuma, Hideaki Iiduka
arXiv Machine Learning
Sep 7

Optimizer Memory Schedules for Outscaling the Overtraining Axis

The paper studies how different optimizers perform as training duration (overtraining) increases, focusing on matrix‑preconditioned methods (Muon, SOAP) and a momentum‑scheduled method (ADANA) compared to AdamW. Across models ranging from 51M to 253M parameters and overtraining factors up to 256×, the authors find that optimal learning‑rate schedules, weight‑decay coefficients, and memory settings shift with horizon, and that ADANA consistently outperforms AdamW, especially with log‑time weight decay and momentum cooldown. Muon and SOAP maintain roughly constant token‑efficiency advantages, with SOAP potentially improving at the highest overtraining levels.

By Katie Everett, Shikai Qiu
arXiv AI
Jul 23

In-Run Data Shapley for Adam Optimizer

arXiv:2602. 00329v4 Announce Type: replace-cross Abstract: Reliable data attribution is essential for mitigating bias and reducing computational waste in modern machine learning, with the Shapley value serving as the theoretical gold standard.

By Meng Ding, Zeqing Zhang, Di Wang, Lijie Hu